Bad Taste Pastor: Bushfires Punish Abortion State
February 11th 2009 12:45
A crazy Pastor has come out of the woodwork to claim that Victoria is being ravaged by bushfire (181 dead, 80 missing, 7000 homeless) because god disapproves of the abortion bill which was recently passed.
Pastor Danny Nalliah told the Sydney Morning Herald that he had a dream that god would remove his protection from the state of Victoria as a punishment for decriminalising abortion.
"The Bible is very clear," he said. "If you walk out of God's protection and turn your back on Him, you are an open target for the devil to destroy."
Mr Nalliah also referred to Victoria as "the baby killing state of Australia" and was unapologetic about speaking "the truth" about the real cause of the recent bushfire devastation.
The article was unclear as to whether Mr Nalliah had contacted the police about his allegation that god is the arsonist responsible for setting the fires. This information could be a valuable lead. God does have a history of spontaneously settings bushes alight to send messages.
However, it remains to be seen if god was the instigator of the crime with satan acting as an accomplice, coerced into executing orders, or if satan acted alone with only tacit approval from god. Satan also has a history of pyromania.
At this stage god may also be investigated for links to organised crime. Any attempts to bribe or intimidate the state of Victoria into joining his gang will be treated seriously. Mr Nalliah may be called as a witness to testify of god's threats to "remove protection" if his orders are not obeyed.
Dreams are credible evidence right?
Pastor Danny Nalliah told the Sydney Morning Herald that he had a dream that god would remove his protection from the state of Victoria as a punishment for decriminalising abortion.
"The Bible is very clear," he said. "If you walk out of God's protection and turn your back on Him, you are an open target for the devil to destroy."
Mr Nalliah also referred to Victoria as "the baby killing state of Australia" and was unapologetic about speaking "the truth" about the real cause of the recent bushfire devastation.
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The article was unclear as to whether Mr Nalliah had contacted the police about his allegation that god is the arsonist responsible for setting the fires. This information could be a valuable lead. God does have a history of spontaneously settings bushes alight to send messages.
However, it remains to be seen if god was the instigator of the crime with satan acting as an accomplice, coerced into executing orders, or if satan acted alone with only tacit approval from god. Satan also has a history of pyromania.
At this stage god may also be investigated for links to organised crime. Any attempts to bribe or intimidate the state of Victoria into joining his gang will be treated seriously. Mr Nalliah may be called as a witness to testify of god's threats to "remove protection" if his orders are not obeyed.
Dreams are credible evidence right?
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Comment by alt_ed
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My, oh, my... Just God's mysterious ways I guess!
Comment by Morgan Bell
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yes all natural disasters are the result of human sin
i dont know how you explain why Tasmanians are broken off from the mainland?
although i guess mainlanders dont really consider that a disaster . . .
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Oh yes, of course, it all makes sense now. If that pastor ever became prime minister, we would all be so much better off. I wonder what people did to cause the economy crisis?
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Comment by Anonymous in U.S.
Now, with that having been said sincerely, let us address this clown writing in the Sydney Morning Herald. When things seem to be at their worst, we all need a laugh or at least a strong giggle to help us cope. The "pastor" has served his purpose for this end.
More seriously--It seems that when people give birth to misformed children or when economic catastrophies occur these types come out of the woodwork just as in natural disasters. If they were not so obviously in self-denial of reality, we might have a chance at helping such misguided souls.
No God of love wants to kill innocents, burn precious critters and land, nor does God want to lead armies to victory by ripping pregnant women's bellies open, as is written in the Old Testament.
Our Creator is not the author of this way of thinking, it is caused by too many people attempting to put a face on the Almighty and then appeasing their small minds by attributing human thoughts and actions to this Supreme Identity.
It is hoped that someday this clown will stop making jokes and open his eyes to reality. Only then will he see
the truth and that it will make him free.
Comment by Kleonaptra
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But anon in the USA calmed me right down. Nice comment.
Just for the record, Satan does not kill people, he wants them alive so he can use them. Gods the one obsessed with killing.
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Comment by the-sandwich-shak
Those laws would possibly include for Victoria that if you don't consistently backburn in a tinder dry, drought ridden area and there are 40 degrees, then perhaps there may be a bushfire. The laws that God established in nature will simply have that consequence. Humans just got in the way.
Also, I disagree with Kleonaptra that God is obsessed with killing. He wants us to live eternally, it's satan that wants us to die for the same length of time.
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Later, it emerged that his church was also the headquarters of the Coalition Against the Decriminalization of Abortion. So depending on your perspective, he's either a courageous firebrand or a shameless firestarter. There's a bushfire joke in there somewhere, but I don't think I 'm going to make it right now.
Hopefully not starting on too much of a tangent, but I agree with Kleonaptra on this one. I once ran across a site where somebody listed all the things that the Old Testament says you should kill people for doing/saying/thinking. If the Bible is really your basis for deciphering what God thinks, it renders the whole "God is love" thing sort of... well... hollow.
EDIT: Found it! evilbible.com
Comment by the-sandwich-shak
Reading those parts of the Old Testament out of context would probably make the majority think that God was pretty harsh with punishment. In context, the lives of the Hebrews were harsh and perhaps needed harsh limitations (I'm not a biblical scholar so refuse to say definitely. Just dropping ideas).
Comment by Edward Allen, a.k.a. Anonymouse in U.S.
Please do not attempt placing any connection to our Creator with all that killing/maiming stuff in the Old Testament. Doing this just sets up extreme dissonance in thinking peoples' minds. While creating more confusion this dubious effort solves nothing.
God is either (as described) as being love, or God is a selfish, childish tyrant wanting his way and showing partiality among his children. You cannot have it both ways. Attempting to rationalize it away by passing off the atrocities committed by the ancients as the will of God is unacceptable and reaching too far.
Thankfully, you have a relationship with our Maker or you would not have written in His defense. It is just that This Awesome Power does not need defending.
When one truly lets go of all preconceptions fostered upon by former generations, and takes a sober look at as many facets of this cosmos and its experiences as possible, one comes to the conclusion that we should stop trying to box in Our Maker and start to love and exist, while helping other do likewise.
Edward Allen
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in the article i linked to in the SMH it ended by saying
hi Chris,
oh no, not to New Zealanders! haha
is there any more severe humiliation than than?
hi Janet,
maybe being outrageous is part of some marketing plan for drumming up business for his church?
spreading his brand etc
its a bit sad that he has to jump on the coat tails of such a massive tragedy to get his 15 minutes in the limelight
hi Edward Allen (aka Anon in the USA)
thanks for the thoughtful comments
i know the USA has a history of sharing bushfire fighting (huge water capacity) helicopters like Elvis during our summer seasons
i like your description of Nalliah as a "clown" - brought a smile to my face
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i was gunna have a spit too, but having a laugh brought my much more enjoyment!
perhaps this "clown" is just the comic relief some people need after such a long time of sad news?
hi Norm,
there are so many evil states - i dont know how Nalliah can pick just one!
hi Sandwich Shak,
i think it was a bad combination of a natural cycle (ie: growth, destruction, and regeneration - bushfires are kind of like the earth shedding its skin) and a few deranged fire-bugs who purposely lit the bush alight, and that is the crime of arson
thanks for your discussion on gods intentions
hi Jose,
i didnt know Nalliah was charged with hate speech against muslims, thanks for the info
seems like he does have a history of inflaming senditive issues (pardon the pun)
thanks also for the link to evilbible, some of those sites are really interesting
hi Jason,
do you mean Chuck Norris?
or maybe that Stucky character with the gay reindeer?
or Donnie Davies with his anti gay music list?
add Pastor Nalliah and they would have an awesome quartet of idiots!
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I'm all for sending the Catholics back to Rome!!! Box em up, and ship em out!
Comment by the-sandwich-shak
I gave warning that I wasn't a biblical scholar, but yes I do have a wonderful relationship with our Lord and Maker.
You are right, He doesn't need defending, but I will always be happy to discuss with anyone who brings the topic up which this blog did.
Take care.
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i hereby declare that to be comment of the year!
i know its early in the year to make such a call, but that was an absolute slamdunk . . . thankyou
hi Jason,
so many pedophile reindeer, so little time . . . well thats what peter pan said!
hi alt-ed,
i wonder if theres room in Rome to house all the crazies . . . or should they be going to Jerusalem?
hi Sandwich Shak,
a couple of responses from religious leaders condemning Nalliah . . .
HERE is a statement by Mark Conner, senior pastor at Melbourne's biggest church, CityLife, saying:
and THIS ARTICLE says:
and
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Comment by the-sandwich-shak
The beauty of this tragedy (if there could possibly be one) is where I see God's true nature coming through via the way people have rallied to provide clothing, food, blood, money and emotional support to the survivors.
I'm glued to the telethon they are currently having on channel nine and I get a lump in my throat to think that in these uncertain financial times people are digging so deep to give.
It's unfortunate that all certain people can see is the judgement side of things. Why don't we look at how people have rallied to support our fellow human beings?
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im watching the telethon too, its really quite touching how many people have been involved . . . even Ellen!
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I live in a small community bound by natural australian forest on three sides, and a lake on the other... our access was blocked two weeks ago due to fire, but I love the bush and thats why I live here... The only way to combat the threat of bush fire is to decimate the bush- but then, why live there? And I think many of the people affected by this NATURAL disaster in Victoria would feel the same. We choose to live our lives encompassed by our lands natural beauty, and thats what makes life worth living.
So yeah 'God' really doesn't come in to it.
Comment by Mrs M
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This guy is a fool and his comment in extremely bad taste. One idiot spoils it for everyone.
Love & stuff
Mrs M
Comment by Morgan Bell
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yeah that was really cute when she pretended to like vegemite for Portias sake!
hi alt_ed,
some of the footage of the remains of houses in Victoria, you just couldnt believe a house used to be situated there, its flanked by such dense bush on all sides . . . ive never seen anything like it in NSW, just one house plonked in the middle of nature . . . it must be very frightening living somewhere like that and seeing a bushfire coming!
hi Mrs M,
fool, idiot, bad taste . . . great summary!
i couldnt agree more!
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Personally I would like to see him walk up to a family whose children died and tell them to their faces that God killed their children because people had abortions.
What a complete dick and a waste of oxygen.!
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Comment by Morgan Bell
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its sad when people try to rationalise that anything bad that happens to a person must have been "brought on" by the victim . . . its the same stupid mentality that people try to apply to rape victims
sometimes bad things happen that are completely beyond the victims control
thats life Mr Nalliah
even if everyone in Victoria lived their lives like the Amish it wouldnt stop a natural disaster given a particular set of environmental conditions
he is an incredibly insensitive person
thanks for your comment
hi Wilson,
yes that koala gulping down a bottle of water has become the international emblem of the Victorian bushfire tragedy
so many poor little critters, apart fom humans, have been killed or injured or displaced
i know Tasmania and many other states are sending feed for the domestic animals
but the wild native animals are harder to care for
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May strength and common sense guide all these victims.
Comment by Morgan Bell
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very eloquently put!
thankyou for summing up what so many Australians were thinking
yes, i think the pastor has been doing far too much talking and judging and not enough listening and observing of whats really going on
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its like seeing an extinct animal hey
you think hmmm didnt you guys dies out ages ago?
and these fires are still burning, even today, i think there are still 8 parts of the state alight . . . its really not the time to be making such crude (as you so nicely put it) statements when people are still in danger
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you know the reality of bushfires only too well
thanks for providing an insider opinion
it is incredibly bad taste for a pastor to try and make a political gain by fear-mongering during a time of tragedy
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are you saying the Victorian bushfires were lit for political gain?
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They too are saying the bushfires is just God's way of taking out the trash... Personally, I think most of the people whom perished were str8???
Comment by Cheryl J
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Your typo was the only real thing you wrote 'ingenuine footage'.
One of the fires was caused by a faulty electricity pole, a serial arsonist caused many others and the weather and the fact that no controlled burns had been allowed or done were all contributing factors.
Stop making idiotic remarks. People lost loved ones in these fires. Nobody is laughing.
Conspiracy theorists are everywhere. Where is your proof drongo?
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thanks for the link . . . is it for real?
hi Cheryl,
i love the word drongo!