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Fan-fiction, Slash & RPS

December 3rd 2008 16:07
I guess we could blame Star Trek for Fan-Fiction, or even Star Wars, or Dr Who, or more recently Buffy, Xena, Harry Potter, or the Lord Of The Rings film trilogy . . . any cult fiction that produces obsessive fans will result in Fan-Fiction.


Fan-Fiction is derivative stories written by fans of original works. The author uses well known characters from other fictional works that they are not the creator of. The characters may be placed in different environments, times, or universes, to the settings the original creator intended them to exist in. Fans will often crossover characters from one story into the world of another. Modern sci-fi and fantasy genre characters are regularly used, however, classics like Alice In Wonderland and Sherlock Holmes continue to inspire Fan Fiction and Fanzines.

CLICKHERE to view Fan Fiction inspired by movies

CLICKHERE to view Fan Fiction inspired by TV shows


Slash Fiction is a type of Fan-Fiction that depicts romantic and/or sexual relationships between two or more male fictional characters. The term is usually used to describe stories where homoerotica is a primary plot element.
eg: a story where Kirk & Spock are gay lovers, or where Starsky & Hutch are gay lovers

Kirk & Spock Slash


Lord Of The Rings slash




Femslash is Slash involving two or more female fictional characters. Popular crossovers include the ladies of TV law enforcement in Bones, NCIS, Without A Trace, Law & Order: SVU and The X-Files

Bones & Scully


CLICKHERE to view Crossover Femslash


Wonder Woman with Leopard Girl from Jungle Action



Real Person Fiction (RPF) is a type of fan fiction featuring celebrities, actors, athletes, comedians, historical figures, musicians, or other real people. Authors build a fictional universe based on the imagined life histories of their real idols. The purpose is to examine the idol and hypothesise what they might do in a given situation, or speculate about events that may have led them to where they are today. The fictional stories can sometimes delve into the sadistic or the erotic.

* fiction involving Real People should be clearly headed with a diclaimer label eg "The following events are pure fiction" to protect the author from libel and slander laws


Real Person Slash (RPS) is fabricated homoerotica involving real-life celebrities who are not necessarily gay. Authors invent a homoerotic subtext between two same-sex (usually male) idols, involving the characters in homosexual relationships. Some stories can contain mildly romantic plots, deep friendships, or innocent crushes, while others are detailed homosexual love stories, and many are explicit erotica.

Matt Damon & Ben Affleck - real person slash (RPS)








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Comment by NoaIzumi

December 3rd 2008 17:38
I'm glad you provided links to fanfiction.net. They have sections for anime and cartoons, as well. I've contributed a few stories to it myself.

Comment by Janet Collins

December 3rd 2008 18:35
Yes, the fanfiction list was astoundingly long. Nice chunk of information, Morgan!

Comment by Wilson Pon

December 3rd 2008 19:09
WoW, Morgan. I bet you must be a fan of fanfiction too!

Comment by Jason King

December 3rd 2008 20:53
Cool post Morgan!! Have read a bit of fan fiction of Star Wars! Might hav to suss out some slash




Comment by Norm

December 3rd 2008 21:32

Comment by alt_ed

December 3rd 2008 21:41
Oh I could have SOOOO much fun doing my own Fan-Fiction story utilising some of the colourful Orble loonies! -insert evil laugh- muhahaha!


Comment by Lilla

December 3rd 2008 23:00
once again proving that anything pure and innocent can be made foul and putrid by the obsessive.

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 02:59
hi Noalzumi,
it is a really cool site to have a browse of . . . i was astounded as to how extensive the list of TV shows and movies was!
it must be a great creative outlet for all those involved!



hi Janet,
i think i got the word "astounded" from your comment . . . very apt!
sometimes it takes a bit of inspiration from external sources to get those creative juices flowing!



hi Wilson,
well now im quite intrigued!



hi Jason,
well theyre just such great characters hey, it would be a fun creative excercise to cross them over into other worlds . . . a bit like that YouTube you posted recently "Star Trek vs Star Wars"

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 03:09
hi Norm,
yes people really are an endless source of entertainment!



hi alt_ed,
well i think you would have to be a "fan" of their work to start with!



hi Lilla,
on the Slash side of things, i wonder if it stems from the queer community (esp in past decades) being a bit starved for positive role models, so they just adapt existing characters to create their own gay idols . . . like in the days before Will & Grace, Queer As Folk, Queer Eye For The Straight Guy, and The L Word . . . it wasnt that long ago that Ellen was the first person to come out of the closet on TV

Comment by Lilla

December 4th 2008 03:17
Oh I have nothing against gay, but get your own role models, dont change the hetrosexual ones to reflect your tastes, as I dont change yours to suit mine.

No one likes someones private parts flaunted int heir face at the dinner table, and only the obsessive would consider it good etiquette in mixed public...

I would think that discretion is still the better part of valor in all five sexes with class?

I found that last picture suggestive and lewd even for you Morgan...

Comment by The Rusty Can

December 4th 2008 03:19
did not know there was such a thing as "slash fiction"... eye-opening stuff 0_0.
Thanks, Morgan .

Comment by alt_ed

December 4th 2008 03:48
I found that last picture suggestive and lewd even for you Morgan...

Mat Damon and Ben Affleck?

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 04:04
hi Lilla,
oh i understand you feeling that way, this kind of fiction is quite controversial, it raises many issues about copyright and libel etc
all the pictures are made by Fan-Fiction, Slash and RPS artists for their forums and communities, they are just visualisations of the themes of some of the stories



hi Rusty,
i found researching it quite interesting too!
thanks for stopping by!


Comment by Kleonaptra

December 4th 2008 05:35
I quite enjoyed the catwoman/wonder woman pic....And if I indulge in fan fiction, you can bet Im going to throw my favourite characters together...Oh, I building a Buffy and Faith scene in my head right now....

Comment by Natalie 2

December 4th 2008 06:22
Fascinating! I think it's totally healthy, as long it it doesn't get too obsessive. It is a fun way for people to be creative, and a bit naughty...and maybe a smidgen weird. Weird is good though, spice of life!

I didn't really know about the Slash and Femslash and Real Person etc, but I have come across a few youtube videos which are kinda the same idea. People take images or film clips of their favorite celebrities or characters and mash them together into a story of their own.


Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 06:55
hi Kleo,
heres a present!

Buffy & Faith


theres quite a few of them involving the Buffy cast, just write "Buffy Slash" into google images . . . i thought a bit of Fem Slash might be right up your alley, nothing wrong with a bit of homoerotica!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 06:59
hi Natalie,
yeah weird can be good!

as long it it doesn't get too obsessive

good advice!
the mash-up YouTubes are very clever . . . all these genres are a new discovery to me too, i also found them fascinating so i thought i would share!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 15:43
hi moonglow,
its all new to me too!
i was actually researching pay rates for freelance writers and i stumbled upon a short-story pubisher who specified "No Fan-Fiction, Slash, or RPS" . . . i thought ooooo that sounds taboo, i might have a poke around and see what its all about!

And...your blogs look great!!

thankyou!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 16:22
i found a recent interview with William Shatner where he responds to a question about Kirk/Spock Slash

UGO TV BLOG - Dec 1, 2008

UGO: Are you familiar with the phenomenon of “Slash Fiction?”

WS: Slash?

UGO: It’s a sub-genre of literature, if you will, that was created, in a way, because of Captain Kirk. It comes from the phrase “Kirk/Spock.” Or “K/S”. It’s people who write their own fan versions of the show. And that’s fine...amateur writers having a good time. But of course there’s always some who take it to a prurient level. And there is a whole subdivision of love stories between Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock. And it’s expanded to everything with rabid fanbases. Harry Potter or, heck, the Simpsons. Have you ever heard of this?

WS: I’ve never heard of the word “slash,” but I have heard of the writings. And I think it’s basically wish-fulfillment. I think the fans see themselves in the hypothetical erotic behavior.

Really Long Link



A mashup of the old animated Star Trek series and William Shatner's cover of Pulp's "Common People." Done in the style of Kirk/Spock Slash stories. Therefore, a "slashup."

Comment by Dianna G

December 4th 2008 16:34
Some interesting pictures there, Morgan...

~Dianna

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 4th 2008 16:54
hi Dianna,
from my private collection . . .

nice to see you!

Comment by Kleonaptra

December 5th 2008 00:08
Oh Morgan! Thanks heaps for that!

I think dear old Kirk said it perfectly up there...

I think it’s basically wish-fulfillment. I think the fans see themselves in the hypothetical erotic behavior.

Go Shatner. You rock buddy.

And if I were ever published, I would find it the greatest form of flattery if people wanted to write about my characters...Id even like to run competitions with prizes for most creative short stories. Getting knickers knotted over some good fantasy just doesnt make sense to me.

Comment by Cheryl J

December 5th 2008 01:31
I've never heard of the terminology either but have read some of the Buffy fan fiction.

I'm a little surprised by Lilla's comment. I don't find any of the pictures even remotely lewd although the genre of Real Person Slash is probably a little tasteless because those are real people not characters and I think people are pushing the envelope a little with that one.

Interesting post

Comment by Postmodern Critic

December 5th 2008 05:32
I found Lilla's comment blatantly homophobic. If someone wants to fantasise about two people having a romantic and/or erotic relationship, what on earth is wrong with that? It's not like anyone's sexuality is fixed anyways, and the only reason why you'd mind people wanting to 'gay up' characters is because you'd be insecure about how it makes you feel. Besides, a lot of fan fiction is based on subtext. There's nothing putrid OR foul about fan fiction, it's as valid a form of expression as any other.

I didn't find anything lewd in the last picture either...

I used to read heaps of slash and RPS, especially for Buffy and LotR... I was quite into Spike/Angel for a while, Buffy/Tara is nice, stuff with Xander is usually funny, and I have tried just about every combination of LotR fiction out there...

Though I don't get what Viggo and Orlando would have in common, I have to admit I find this picture very pleasing:


Comment by Morgan Bell

December 5th 2008 06:26
hi Kleo,

im liking William Shatner more and more as he gets older, he has a great sense of humour and a very accepting attitude!

Several prominent authors have given their blessings to fanfiction, notably J.K. Rowling. Rowling said she was "flattered" that people wanted to write their own stories based on her characters. However, Anne Rice has consistently and aggressively prevented fan fiction based on any of her characters

Really Long Link

i think Buffy and Faith had some great onscreen chemistry as rivals which translates easily into sexual tension

Buffy and Faith

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 5th 2008 06:39
hi Cheryl,

i tried to pick some fairly PG illustrations (as you can imagine theres some pretty explicit stuff floating around on the internet), i thought the pics were more romantically inclined, like a kiss or an embrace, rather than graphic sex acts

i found an interesting essay examining the morality and legality of RPS, it was a retort to someone claiming the whole genre is criminal:

Sure, there may be some celebrities so homophobic that they would sue an RPS writer just to make an example of him or her. Writing a story where Tom Cruise and Mel Gibson shag like rabid weasels is probably a bad idea. But do they joke in interviews about having sex with each other (like Matt Damon and Ben Affleck), grab each other's asses on national television (like Ryan Stiles and Colin Mochrie), or kiss each other on stage (like Bono and Edge of U2)? Many RPS-bashers are presuming a level of homophobia on the part of RPS subjects that probably isn't there if the celebs in question are comfortable enough to do things like these in public.

Really Long Link

just another point of view, it is certainly a controversial area of writing, and theres no doubt many envelopes are being pushed!

thanks for sharing your opinions!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 5th 2008 07:00
hi epiphanie,

im a little prone to having a wandering mind, i often think oooo i wonder what Cillian Murphy and James McAvoy would look like as a couple, or imagine if Angelina left Brad for Jennifer Aniston, what a scandal! what would they talk about?

i think Fan Fiction and Real Person Fiction is just taking an idea like that and forming it into a full-length story . . . i wonder how many writers do that and then go back through and change the names and get a best-seller?

thanks for the illustration of Viggo and Orlando, i bet they take it as a compliment, in some circles "gay" can translate to "too good looking to be straight" haha

when i was browsing the Buffy Fan-Fiction i noticed there is quite alot of heterosexual "Slash-esque" couplings, like Buffy/Xander, or Willow/Spike etc

Besides, a lot of fan fiction is based on subtext

yeah thats true, thanks for pointing that out

i said this about RPS:

Some stories can contain mildly romantic plots, deep friendships, or innocent crushes, while others are detailed homosexual love stories, and many are explicit erotica.

but it also applies to the fictional character Slash - like with any genre of writing, theres always a broad range . . .

sometimes people find that a hinted dalliance or implied flirtation can be more erotic than explicit porn!



Comment by Postmodern Critic

December 5th 2008 08:19
Looking at those images makes me want to read Buffy and Faith fiction again. Though ix-nay on the ondage-bay.

Angelina and Jennifer is very creative!

I dabbled in writing a RPS story, and one of the reasons it's so compelling is that you already have a very strong personality to work with... you don't need to create one of your own, but you can 'fill in the blanks' all you like.

I'm sure Viggo wouldn't mind awfully, but then again it can't feel entirely unobtrusive either... Ian McKellen actually knows about fanfiction written about himself and condones it! Also, I think Dominic Monaghan (who played Merry in LotR) printed out a bunch of RPS and showed it to some of the cast members at a party, and they were joking about it.

I love your description of hetero slash-inspired couples, where there is an element of the forbidden, I hadn't looked at it quite that way before.

I was quite surprised to stumble upon LotR RPS and slash all those years ago, I had never even suspected that a subculture of women (it's almost always women) would write about men in romantic or erotic relationships, and it sat comfortably with me intellectually.

Great post!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 5th 2008 08:41
hi epiphanie,

I had never even suspected that a subculture of women (it's almost always women) would write about men in romantic or erotic relationships

wow i didnt realise the authors were majority women, i had presumed they were gay men . . . thanks for that bit of trivia!

also very interesting about Ian McKellan and Dominic Monaghan being good sports about the writing that involves them . . . i guess its one of those things that comes with fame, idolation, im glad they could just take it in their stride and have a sense of humour about it

Comment by Danceswithwords

December 6th 2008 05:41
I'm a fictional fan ;o)


Dances

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 6th 2008 06:32
hi Dances,
haha great play on words!
its like Marilyn Manson always says "i dont like the Slash but the Slash likes me"

Comment by Doug Pollard

December 7th 2008 06:00
Re female writers of homoerotic slash fiction: homoerotic manga or yaoi, as it's known, is marketed to, and bought by, female fans, though why Japanse girls go crazy for boy-love stories is beyond me.
The characters are usually highly stereotypical - older/stronger/butch partner with younger/pretty/boyish submissive lover.
Strictly speaking yaoi focuses on the sex (i.e., it's porn), if it has a story as well, it's called shounen-ai.
Incidentally, the word yaoi is an acronym for "Yama nashi, Ochi nashi, Imi nashi" (No climax, no point, no meaning).
It is not, as had been written elsewhere, meant to represent the cry of the younger partner as he is penetrated by his lover!!

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 7th 2008 06:11
hi Doug,
thanks for the info on Yaoi!
great acronyn!
i find all these niche genres really interesting, i had seen the term "Yaoi" before but did not know its meaning . . . its always a pleasure to learn something new!

oh and this was gold:

It is not, as had been written elsewhere, meant to represent the cry of the younger partner as he is penetrated by his lover!!

haha yoweeeee!

Comment by Danceswithwords

December 8th 2008 01:20
Hey Morgan

It's nice when someone gets you ;o) I love puns and double entendre.

I always enjoy your posts. I'm so glad you don't just go on and on about movies. Thanks for making Orble warble.



Dances

Comment by alt_ed

December 8th 2008 01:35
God, one minute we're discussing fan-fiction and the next its anal stories from gramps! Yaoi indeed...

Comment by Doug Pollard

December 8th 2008 04:33
ed, the appropriate honorific for an elder of the Wulliwufta tribe who has not yet attained three score years and ten is 'Uncle' (or as my great-niece calls me, 'Great Uncle Australia'), not 'Gramps' - though I do also answer to 'Colonel'

Comment by Postmodern Critic

December 8th 2008 07:54
Doug wrote:

why Japanse girls go crazy for boy-love stories is beyond me


I'm not Japanese but I like gay romance because I like the idea of men being intimate with each other emotionally, celebrating and loving themselves. I happen to find men attractive, so there's an element of the erotic as well. I imagine men who are attracted to women are into lesbian stories in a similar way.

Comment by Morgan Bell

December 8th 2008 14:27
hi Dances,
well i do sometimes go on and on about movies, but i created a whole separate blog for that (Movie Train) so i dont bore everyone too much!
im glad i can make Orble warble for you!



hi alt_ed and Doug,
ill let you two flirt amongst yourselves . . .



hi epiphanie,
ill let you watch . . . its not quite the same as Viggo and Orlando though is it? haha

Comment by Postmodern Critic

December 8th 2008 23:48
Hi Morgan,

I don't think my interest in gay romance would extend to yaoi, by the sounds of it... and there are some very sweet Viggo and Orlando stories out there, which is how I like my fiction - uplifting and heavy on detail and meaning.

In a way I idealise homosexuality at selected times, as an attempt to counter all the ridiculously pro-Heterosexual content in the world out there.

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