Morgan BellPink Pistols: gays fight fire with fire (LINK)
June 28th 2008 07:28
have you heard of the Pink Pistols in the USA?
apparently the queer community in america is actively arming itself due to fear of gay bashings, rapes and hate killings . . . you know somethings not right when the gays are picking up guns . . . i can only imagine how scared these people must feel to form a gun club as the most effective way of warding off homophobic violence
the modern USA is sounding more and more like the wild west where everybody needs to carry a firearm or weapon to protect themselves against unprovoked attacks
i worry about our yankee cousins . . . the people of the USA seem to all be looking at each other through the barrel of a gun and that sounds like a terrible way to live . . . kill or be killed, attack is the best form of defence, fighting fire with fire, an eye for an eye
sounds like alot of dead, burnt, blind or shot people to me
its like theres a stalemate and everyone has their pistols drawn . . . who will lay their weapon on the table first?
or is it inevitable there will be a shoot out?
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apparently the queer community in america is actively arming itself due to fear of gay bashings, rapes and hate killings . . . you know somethings not right when the gays are picking up guns . . . i can only imagine how scared these people must feel to form a gun club as the most effective way of warding off homophobic violence
the modern USA is sounding more and more like the wild west where everybody needs to carry a firearm or weapon to protect themselves against unprovoked attacks
i worry about our yankee cousins . . . the people of the USA seem to all be looking at each other through the barrel of a gun and that sounds like a terrible way to live . . . kill or be killed, attack is the best form of defence, fighting fire with fire, an eye for an eye
sounds like alot of dead, burnt, blind or shot people to me
its like theres a stalemate and everyone has their pistols drawn . . . who will lay their weapon on the table first?
or is it inevitable there will be a shoot out?
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Comment by Don Lee
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Like most people our age, the wife and I grew up with guns. It wasnt such a dangerous world back then. But these days, the first one to lay their gun on the table gets shot.
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thanks for the comment
i was telling my dad the recent statistic i read that there are 90 guns for every 100 people in the USA and he said gee you wouldnt want to be in the other 10% . . . it sounds like you guys are at saturation point with firearms, it would be reasonable to assume that practically anyone who approaches you may be carrying a gun . . . no wonder you want one in your truck!
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yes im sure theres gunna be a whole emerging industry of fashionable gun accessories for gays!
Comment by Lester Caudill
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Not so long ago I would venture a guess that gun ownership in the US was about a 100%.
Comment by Morgan Bell
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yes it seems there must be some critical mass of gun ownership where once the majority all have one you are at a distinct disadvantage if you dont
it is a culture i cant even imagine living here in Australia, and a culture than seems to have even permeated even the minority groups, i guess people are forced to adapt to being under constant threat with whatever resources are most available
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My eyes get sore.
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well i guess if everyone else is watching their own arse the queer community has little option but to go with the flow
hi Jeff,
thanks for the info, good to hear it is going down . . . i just fear for the minorities if a "survival of the fittest" mentality is adopted . . . and you are right, owning guns is very different to carrying them, i guess its impossible to know what proportion of people take them out to the streets and what proportion keep them at home
thanks for the coments
Comment by RubySoho
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Far out in the uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the western spiral arm of the Galaxy lies a small unregarded yellow sun.
Orbiting this at a distance of roughly ninety-two million miles is an utterly insignificant little blue green planet whose ape- descended life forms are so amazingly primitive that they still think digital watches are a pretty neat idea.
This planet has - or rather had - a problem, which was this: most of the people on it were unhappy for pretty much of the time. Many solutions were suggested for this problem, but most of these were largely concerned with the movements of small green pieces of paper, which is odd because on the whole it wasn't the small green pieces of paper that were unhappy.
And so the problem remained; lots of the people were mean, and most of them were miserable, even the ones with digital watches.
Many were increasingly of the opinion that they'd all made a big mistake in coming down from the trees in the first place. And some said that even the trees had been a bad move, and that no one should ever have left the oceans.
Amen to that.
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thats a fantastic quote!
its amazing to think what an outsider would think looking down at us . . . i also think of The Matrix where the human race is likened to a virus destroying everything it encounters . . . or Pink Floyd's Money "keep your hands off my stack", those little grenn pieces of paper make us treat each other and our environment terribly . . . imagine if there was no profit to be made from firearms? ok now im getting into John Lennon territory . . .
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Yeah, i love that book and that opening tells so much.
Basically, we have made a right mess of it.
Comment by Mountain Fog
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When in Rome... if everyone is carrying a gun, I think I'd end up doing the same, the trick is, how to make sure you aviod ever having to use it!!!!
I would buy the stab proof clothing, (yes it is available in New York), and the bullet/bomb proof limmo, have armed body guards and then, yes, I'd feel safe touring around in America, oh, and my home would have 24 hour internal monitored security, 15 foot walls with razor wire and silent trip alarms, dogs prowling, and a perfectly manicured lawn for croquet.
Sad really... and what about the town that voted that everyone HAD to carry a gun, (I think it was stopped)and how another state tried to allow anyone to wear their gun in a holster on their hip!!
YIPPPPEE KYYEEE OHHH MOTHER FUC@#*S!!!!
cheers and pass the bullets..
fog
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i love how colourful your mind is!
stab proof clothing? compulsary gun carrying? these things sounds too crazy not to be true!
thanks for the comment!
Comment by Jeff Musall
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In Nevada, you may carry a loaded or unloaded firearm on your person without a permit so long as the firearm is fully exposed (known as "open carry"). An example of open carry is when a handgun is carried in an "outside the pants" hip holster. Full or partial concealment (such as a purse, jacket, etc.) is considered "concealed carry."
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Just think, when i was travelling around the states last year i had some idea about guns in America, but no idea that there were 90 guns to every 100 yanks! THAT’S more insane than my suggested hit list…
perhaps there is no need for american teenagers to be taught about sex education and contraception when they have such a great scheme in place already – shoot or ye be shot!
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But so long as we can all live peacefully in this world and not take ourselves so damn seriously, well, who knows, we might just put a dent in Smith & Wesson's stock portfolio.
I differ with the NRA. I do believe that guns do kill people. That's what they're designed to do. But people aren't designed by God or even our better fellow men and women to kill one another. Self-control is in the end the final and best gun control any of us need. If you have doubts about this, check in on the web for the Springfield (MA) Newspapers or MassLive.com to read about last weekend's carnage in Springfield.
Pink feminists--even heat-packin' pink-feminists ...seriously, they really don't worry me. It's just out of control people in general. /s
Comment by Mountain Fog
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WOW!! Lets all go to Nevada!! We can all wear cowboy outfits and a pair of silver six guns in rhinestone studded holsters on our hips!!!
tee hee!
Then we can go to Vegas!!!
YIIPPPEEE KYYYYEE OOOOHHHH!!!
Morgan,
I am but pale imitation, a wan and pallid hue of life's richer, and more intense, pallete of colour!
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thanks for the info about nevada . . . it really does sound like cowboys and indians! haha
hi alt-ed,
ahhh perhaps lack of gun control is secret government population control . . . its like REALLY late term abortion!
hi Johnny,
oooo i wish i could see what you see in the picture!
i never was much good at those magic eye puzzles lol
hi Anonymous,
an armed angry lesbian does sound like an intimidating propect . . . although i hear theyre a bit like snakes, if you dont try to poke them you should be ok!
hi Fog,
you are like orbles version of a technicolour dreamcoat!
thanks for the comments everyone!
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well the lipstick lesbians may be into accessorising their weapons like Jason and Fog . . . but you might want to steer clear of Rosie O'Donnel! haha
actually im pretty sure Rosie is outspokenly against guns, i think the school shootings make her really anxious as a mum . . .
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ok if two of you can see it im getting worried . . . is it male or female bits, and how many?
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Him, Us, They, Gay; Brother, Sister, Father, Son ... it's all the same, isnlt it?
Right On Sister!
Armed people don't have a colour, it is chosen for them the moment they pick up that weapon ...and disarmed people have a choice... they can still walk away, just like most of the free world does.
Udder maddness or should that be baaarmy army!?*
Lilla ...
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it just seems excessive to me, if every single peron is carrying a gun what is the point of the police? and if the police are impotent then you are pretty much living in anarchy . . . i know some people want to live like that but i just feel sorry for the people who want to quietly go about their lives without being afraid of violence every day . . . honestly i wouldnt even feel comfortable visiting the USA with that amout of weapons floating around . . .
thanks for the comment!
Comment by Doug Pollard
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It was far worse in other states with looser gun controls - people accidentally shooting their own kids, people trying to settle domestic arguments with guns, kids stealing their parents guns to kill other kids who dissed them at school.. . . . . even armed guards at the gates and in the school grounds to frisk students for guns and search lockers
The problem is, if a gun is there, it will inevitably be used one day, and the more guns, the more gun use, and the more death.
In such a situation, the kind of people who are unlikely toshoot and kill will eventually all be killed off, and all the people who are willing to kill will breed, and we'll end up with a nation of people who think they can solve any problem by sending in guys with guns to kill people.
Oh, wait, er, aren't they doing that already?
Not a country I could live in, till they somehow get over this insanity.
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wow thats alot of violence in a short time!
i have always lived in Australia and i have never seen a murder or even seen a civilian with a gun in my whole life . . . i think Australia generally only has about 50 murders a year with guns for the whole country
i like your theory about the pacifists being bred out, there may be some truth to that
thanks for the comment
Comment by Lilla
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stop-overdelay in LA some years ago now, I caught the local public bus "downtown" for a bit of a sight-see ... there was a Lakers game on that day and the traffic was gridlocked, tempers raw. People everywhere and pretty soon the tension was palapble on the bus, as red bandanad gangs were out and about - some now on the bus - before anyone knew it.The day turned into an absolute farce, with gang fights and arguments, and guns drawn all over the city... anarchy as you say. We saw a hold up as we went past on the bus and I was packing it, knowing everyone on the bus probably had a gun in their pocket or handbag, each person looking sideways with suspicion at the passenger next to them ... IF it had hit the fan on the bus that day ... with just one person 'losing it,' ... well, we probably all would have ended up dead that day too!
I was travelling alone and I'll never forget that feeling of fear and drread I felt ... I'll never travel on the bus there (by choice) again.
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I agree with Mr Rainbow Reporter...
However I think it's more likely that the armed will try to kill each other rather than the unarmed, because paranoid people tend to associate with each other.
On the way to my apartment in Sofia from the airport I saw a big sign that said 'Weaponry' on a shopfront, and it turns out that owning guns is legal in Bulgaria just like it is in the US... I was quite disturbed. The whole thing makes me reconsider moving to California... for about 4.5 seconds. The thing is, most people are so nice there, and most people get along really well without having to resort to gun violence.
I don't think I would ever buy a gun. I can't see myself using one, so why would I?
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what a horrifying experience!
im such a scaredy cat, id rather just stay away from places that are heavily armed!
thanks for sharing that story!
hi epiphanie,
i actually think if i had a gun i would use it, i would have no qualms about it, but it would make me paranoid wondering who had one and if they were the type to use it . . . ive always been one to wander through parks and streets in the city at all hours of the night, ive lived in the red light district and surrounded by homeless and never had any trouble . . . but if they had a gun and i had a gun and one of us felt threatened it might be a different story?
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yes America has quite a violent history, but i truly believe no human being in inherantly violent, it is all learnt behaviour . . . but when nobody wants to put down their guns it seems an impossible task!
thanks for the comment
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thats a nice positive attitude!
Comment by Anonymous
What frightens me more at times is the number of domestic arguments (usually fueled by booze and unrelieved stress/depression and sometimes cultural influences) resulting in "settlements" by gunfire.
Arguments of course, aren't "settled" by gunfire and the families are shattered, relatives left speechless and sometimes with the kids or grandkids, and neighbors wondering "what next?".
But Doug's right: at least having these laws on the books and steady enforcement to put teeth into them goes a lot further to "keep the peace" than all the "peacemakers" we can stash in our "hiding places."
"Hiding places"? Even some cops are notorious for their carelessness. But thankfully they are publicly as well as departmentally "written up." It's also sad to say that the old joke about the only difference between a potential criminal with a gun and a cop -- or a frightening basketcase with a gun -- is a badge. I don't say this lightly because I have a law enforcement background and one of my grandfathers was an officer. (His most frightening moments? Getting called out to put an end to "family disputes" in his city's "flats."
God knows how many officers have lost friends and comrades due to carelessness, hyper-stress and yes, booze -- as opposed to the "official reports."
This recent Supreme Court ruling hasn't helped; not in the least.
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thanks for providing a comment that was really well thought through
i think you are right about domestic disputes, the stakes are raised substantially when a gun is available and a split second of anger can turn into a tragedy
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im living in Tazzy now but i was in NSW during the Port Arthur Massacre, i think that really is the point where Australians said enough is enough with guns . . . people in towns and cities have no genuine use for them and people who need them for farming and hunting should have them licenced and registered and locked away when theyre not using them
thanks for the comment!