Morgan Bellwhat has Feminism done for you lately?
July 23rd 2008 17:23
Here in the western world the rights and freedoms that women enjoy today were fought for by many courageous Feminists.
In the 1800's when a woman married she lost any right to control property that was hers prior to the marriage. She had no right to acquire any property during marriage. She could not make contracts, keep or control her own wages or any rents, transfer property, sell property or bring any lawsuit. She could also not make a will.
Campaigning for Women's Rights has been labelled "Feminism" since the 1890's.
One of the main causes that the earliest Feminists were concerned with was the call to allow women to be able to vote. This movement was called "Suffrage" and many of the "Suffragettes" who led protests against the government were jailed and abused in the process of winning the right to vote.
Australian women got the vote in 1902. Some women (mature-aged home owners) were allowed to vote in England in 1918, and finally all women got the vote in 1928. In the USA women got the vote in 1919.
English women could not study at Oxford University until 1920. In the USA, Yale University did not go co-ed for undergraduates until 1969.
Women did not serve in the Army in the USA until World War II. In Australia women were not integrated into the regular Army until the 1970s.
Men could legally rape their wives up until the 1980s in the USA and the laws for Marital Rape did not change in England until 1991.
Feminism is not a dirty word and is still very relevant today.
If you are a woman who has enjoyed any of the following freedoms you have the Feminists that came before you to thank:
- equal access to education
- equal pay for equal work
- access to contraception
- reproductive rights
- the right to vote
- the right to own land and assets
- the right to have banking and credit accounts in your own name
- the right to enter a public bar
- the right to travel or socialise without a chaperone
Its not all about free-love, hairy legs and bra-burning!
In the 1800's when a woman married she lost any right to control property that was hers prior to the marriage. She had no right to acquire any property during marriage. She could not make contracts, keep or control her own wages or any rents, transfer property, sell property or bring any lawsuit. She could also not make a will.
Campaigning for Women's Rights has been labelled "Feminism" since the 1890's.
One of the main causes that the earliest Feminists were concerned with was the call to allow women to be able to vote. This movement was called "Suffrage" and many of the "Suffragettes" who led protests against the government were jailed and abused in the process of winning the right to vote.
Australian women got the vote in 1902. Some women (mature-aged home owners) were allowed to vote in England in 1918, and finally all women got the vote in 1928. In the USA women got the vote in 1919.
English women could not study at Oxford University until 1920. In the USA, Yale University did not go co-ed for undergraduates until 1969.
Women did not serve in the Army in the USA until World War II. In Australia women were not integrated into the regular Army until the 1970s.
Men could legally rape their wives up until the 1980s in the USA and the laws for Marital Rape did not change in England until 1991.
Feminism is not a dirty word and is still very relevant today.
If you are a woman who has enjoyed any of the following freedoms you have the Feminists that came before you to thank:
- equal access to education
- equal pay for equal work
- access to contraception
- reproductive rights
- the right to vote
- the right to own land and assets
- the right to have banking and credit accounts in your own name
- the right to enter a public bar
- the right to travel or socialise without a chaperone
Its not all about free-love, hairy legs and bra-burning!
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Comment by S.L.
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There were all female schools dating back further than the referrence you made to Yale, that produced women doctors, lawyers and engineers (among other high-dollar careers.) Women have taken over so many of the previously male-only schools and jobs and clubs, but let an all female establishment (of any kind) allow males and the weeping & sobbing are disgusting.
Today's feminist isn't after equality, Morgan. She wants ownership and absolute rule. That does nothing for me, for you, or for any other woman.
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As for Morgan, I'm positive she has always cast a wise vote, last time for the Greens i believe (I think they're a pro-choice party).
Great post Morgan!
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Comment by RubySoho
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But this is great, thank you, thank you, thank you!
Bradish, honestly I can't believe you just wrote that. You don't know how you feel about women voting? The right to vote is the cornerstone of any liberal democracy. If you don't have the right to vote, you don't have anything. And have you stopped to think why more women vote liberal? Could it be because conservatism favours men?
And if you don't think women deserve to have political opinions then why do you feel the need to pollute the internet with yours?
Comment by S.L.
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Comment by Mrs M
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I'm all for feminism. The sort of feminism that allows choice. And I take my hat off to all those women before me who have tried to make my life as a woman just a little bit easier.
But equal pay for equal work still doesn't take place today. Sure, it is illegal to discriminate but still to this day women earn 85c to every $1 a man earns.
I've added two links to newspaper articles.
McKews equal pay plea
Women don't work enough: expert
SL,
Love & stuff
Mrs M
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Comment by RubySoho
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wtf??
you are a disgrace to your gender. I am ashamed of you.
Comment by S.L.
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Comment by RubySoho
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For when such a finely conditioned traitor to her own sex such yourself takes issue with me, I know I must be on the right track.
Deal with it, honey, us feminists are not going anywhere.
Comment by S.L.
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Sorry to waste so much of your time, Morgan. Ruby isn't worth any more of mine. Deal with her if you like.
Comment by Morgan Bell
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well im a Feminist and i respect other Feminists
if women prefer to live independantly they should be able to
women should be able to say if and when they have sex or get married or have children
they should be able to vote in the people that make the laws to ensure these choices
i think Feminism is just questioning inequalities in the system and lobbying for women to be treated as people and not as property
Feminism is what allows us all to voice our opinions without fear of being arrested or beaten or oestracised or financially disadvantaged
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Comment by RubySoho
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Great. Good news for a change.
Does that mean you won't be annoying me here anymore?
Comment by RubySoho
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Feminism is what allows us all to voice our opinions without fear of being arrested or beaten or oestracised or financially disadvantaged
That's why I love you Morgan.
Comment by S.L.
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Yep, Morgan and Ruby and alt-ed, this is truly a wonderful time, all brought to you by feminism.
Comment by RubySoho
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You have no idea what feminism is. Feminists of the past devoted their lives so that we can come out of the shadows and out of the kitchens and be treated as independent human beings.
You know, I can handle misogyny when it comes from a man but when a woman is spouting this drivel it is intolerable.
Do you know you sound EXACTLY like the crazy radical Muslim preachers who go on and on about women being pieces of meat? Isn't funny SL, that you are EXACTLY like the people and the religion that you say you hate?
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Comment by Morgan Bell
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yes i am a bit partial to the Greens on alot of issues . . . but in general i think its a good thing that women are represented in parliament!
hi Queenie,
i think there are whole generations of women who arent taught how much hard work was done by Feminists before them . . . the choices we have today should never be taken for granted, they were not given, they were won!
Comment by Morgan Bell
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oh i really only jotted down a few points, i would still love to see any article you write on the same matter!
you only have to go as far back as my mothers generation where womens careers were limited to nurses, teachers, or receptionists
i love Jane Austen novels, mostly for the contrast of how women lived a century ago, upper class women were practically house-bound, unable to inherit, unable to earn an income, completely reliant on their fathers or husbands
i think every once in awhile it is good to reflect on why modern women are allowed to wear pants, or run companies, or divorce abusive spouses etc
hi Mrs M,
thanks for the article links
we have come a long way from being paid half-wages and being worked like slaves . . . the more lucrative professions (like engineering) still do not attract equal numbers of women, i think it is a cultural thing that many parents dont encourage their daughters to be interested in math and science and construction . . . but i agree, there are still quite a few barriers for women in the workplace (hopefully getting less as time goes on)
just this year i heard of a law suit being settled against a solicitors firm in the UK who were holding business meetings at strip clubs to exclude female employees
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I severely doubt it, wasn't the rule, women were to be seen and not heard. ??????
So am I right in thinking, that even if the anti feminist females were right, then by definition, the mere fact that they express an opinion makes them, well wrong......
Or am I all wrong here......
Please help me, all this responsibility of running a business and all these freedoms I have such as voting and buying property and enjoying my life have all made my head very fuzzy. oh please I need a man to clarify my thoughts......
great post morgan, had a good few laughs down the comment trail.
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I guess it was the feminist's who forced you into a relationship with a man who punched your pregnant belly S.L.??? Yes, blame those women seeking equality for what's WRONG in your own life S.L.
In fact, the only person in this thread whinging like crazy because nobody cared enough to save you from yourself is YOU!
Comment by Morgan Bell
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it is not just promiscuous women who use birth control, reproductive rights are also there for married women and monogamous women
if you are married and only want to have two children then that is all you should have
when there were laws saying men can have sex with their wives without consent and no contraception was available there was simply no choice, you could fulfill your role as a baby machine or be turfed out on the street to live in poverty
hi Jeff,
i am surprised Anne Coulter would say that too, maybe she doesnt include herself in the category of "woman"?
it is strange that someone who has built a career in the media and law and politics would express a desire to give up her right to have her say
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Comment by RubySoho
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Feminists are to be blamed for AIDS.
And here I was thinking it was God's punishment on homosexuals.
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Comment by Mrs M
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I think you need to look into the history of HIV and AIDS before you blame feminism as the cause for its widespread presence in females.
Or at least I'm assuming you are only taking about how widespread through the female gender.
Love & stuff
Mrs M
Comment by Morgan Bell
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hey you are a great example of a young woman who enjoys her freedoms and respects where they came from!
financial independance has been a major factor in women being able to think for themselves and run their own lives
hi S.L.
i dont really think AIDS is a result of Feminism, if anything Feminism has improved womens health services and taught women that we dont have to have sex with men if we dont want to . . . we can make our own choices
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Comment by Johnny Come Lately
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Never have I heard such a load or ridiculous bullshit. Of all of the women I know, none of them are promiscuous baby killing, disease spreading whores which is what she is inferring. All of them have retained their feminity and yet are strong women with rights and opinions long fought for. An intelligent woman who has a voice, an opinion and feels she is everybody's equal is an attractive, beautiful and feminine human being who I have nothing but the utmost respect for.
Very few comments have disgusted me quite as much as those made by S.L Bradish. Without feminism S.L you wouldn't be able to be making these comments as you would be told to sit down, shut up and mind your place. Come to think of it, maybe all the rights of feminism should be revoked because there is currently nobody I'd like to say that more to than you right now.
Comment by RubySoho
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SL, Morgan is an amazing person who tries to find good in everyone and hence gives you far more time than you deserve.
But I'm not that polite. The only person who is bringing this blog down is yourself. In case you hadn't noticed you are somewhat of a laughing stock around here.
Later 'gator.
Comment by S.L.
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Johnny Come Lately... my goodness, you must know the most sterling feminists on the planet! How nice for you. And how lovely that they are all vestal virgins, right? I'm just sure that not one of them has dropped her drawers because feminism said it was acceptable behavior for a liberated woman. And certainly no woman you know, of the feminist persuasion, would ever have an abortion just because she could. Thanks to feminism. What a lucky man you must be, Johnny.
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But thanks for ending it with such a reasonable statement.
Oh yes, it is I and the others who have commented here today who are lacking in common sense and logic. Not you, never you...
Comment by alt_ed
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I've said it before and I will say it again; you're many ridiculous claims about friends, relatives and personal experiences really do seem false. If you have indeed lived this colourful dark-fairy tale life then you deserve little more than my deepest sympathies for it is no doubt the reason you are the bitter god-bother'er we see today!
tata S.L.
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But I'm not sure he could
Comment by alt_ed
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God does any news every reach you in that ivory castle S.L. ?
Comment by Johnny Come Lately
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I don't think there would be a single person reading your comments on this post that doesn't now see you as a completely irrational person incapable of intelligent debate. As someone above said, you have made yourself into a laughing stock. Nobody who is reading this could see your comments as anything other than deluded rantings and after this I doubt anyone here will ever take anything you say seriously.
I'm sure every single woman reading this is a diseased slut who has had numerous abortions. If that is your view of the majority of the "world outside of S.L" then I suggest you seek help now as you are obviously unbalanced.
Comment by Mrs M
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If it started out as a gay disease, then how did women come into the picture?
And what of men and their 'promiscuity'? What if husbands had gay lovers and then went home to their dutiful wives.....
You've just pointed out two tragic deaths from AIDS and neither had anything to do with sex.
Mrs. M, and lots of women die from AIDS every year, or hadn't you heard?
I've never been rude to you SL. I'm just asking questions to back up your claims.
Love & stuff
Mrs M
Hi Morgan,
Absolutely pay has improved but when you see that it was over 30 years ago that legislation for equal pay was put into place and it still isn't quite the case, then there is more fighting and protesting that needs to be done.
I'm not sure that there will ever be a time that feminism ever achieves its goals. Keep on fighting girls.
But yes, we are definitely in a much better situation than ever before.
Love & stuff
Mrs M
Comment by Morgan Bell
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Black women account for 66% of AIDS cases amongst all women in the USA
Per population black women are 21 times more likely to get AIDS than white women (Latinas are 5 times more likely than whites)
Black and Hispanic women represent 24% of all US women. However, women in these 2 groups account for 82% of new AIDS diagnoses in women
Heterosexual intercourse is the leading cause of transmission amongst women (73%) followed by injection drug use (24%)
About 76% of HIV infected women care for dependant children in their homes.
About 2% of HIV infected women who become pregnant pass the virus on to their children.
Proportion of new AIDS cases that are women:
1985 - 8%
1990 - 12%
1995 - 20%
2000 - 27%
2008 - 27%
There are about 1.2 millions people living with HIV/AIDS in the USA today and 300,000 of them are women.
Women who have HIV/AIDS are disproportionately low-income, 64% have annual incomes under $10,000
In 1996 it was found that 17% of all prison releasees were HIV positive. In 1997 it was confirmed that AIDS was 5.5 times higher amongst prisoners than in the general population. 11% of young black men and 4% of young hispanic men are incarcerated (compared to 1.5% of white men)
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i think there is far more correlation between poverty, incarcertion, and drug use and the transmission of HIV/AIDS than there is between Feminism and HIV/AIDS
Comment by Michaelie
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Bloody hilarious comments. I would almost have thought it was meant to be comedy.
Ruby, you slapper, I also blame global warming and the price of petrol on your whorish antics. Heh heh.
Feminists are to be blamed for AIDS.
And here I was thinking it was God's punishment on homosexuals.
Hahahaha great line.
Michaelie
Comment by Morgan Bell
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yeah the comments did start getting a bit crazy!
i think sometimes women forget all the positive things the Feminist movement have brought us . . . most of the changes have happened in the last 100-150 years but i have seen many postive changes in my short lifetime . . . i just hope each new generation takes the time to remember
hi Mrs M,
you make an interesting point about how slowly changes occur even after laws are brought in
in the year group i did my university course with there were only 2 women (including myself) out of about 35 that were studying civil engineering
i am always impressed when i see women as CEOs of companies . . . i think (hope) we will achieve equality in the end!
hi Johnny,
thanks for the good vibes!
i agree, us women are generally trustworthy responsible people who are completely competant of making choices for themselves!
hi Norm,
maybe God is a Feminist herself?
Comment by Morgan Bell
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i can understand why you personally do not approve of the concept of "free love" as it rejects the institution of marriage which i know you hold dearly as a Christian
many Feminists are also critical of the concept of "free love" and consider its use in the counterculture of the 60s and 70s as a male strategy to undermine a woman's ability to say no to sex
i think you would be hard pressed to find a Feminist who recommends promiscuity or unsafe sex
what Feminists do say is that if a woman chooses not to marry or chooses to express her sexuality she should still be treated with respect and afforded the same rights as every other human being
Feminists believe you should not miss out on work, education, legal, financial, or political opportunities based on your gender, sexuality, sex life, or marital status
i understand your concerns about promiscuity and unsafe sex i just dont think Feminism promotes either of these things . . . showing compassion and understanding and respect for people who choose lifestyles different to your own is not the same as encouraging or forcing certain behaviours
i also dispute that Feminism is to blame for the spread of HIV/AIDS (see statistics in previous comment)
on a more positive note, i see the USA Marine Corps (which i understand your granddaughter has joined) are now comprised of 6.2% women - a small but growing move in the right direction - and as of 1995 they now have female pilots!
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Comment by RubySoho
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Ruby Soho is a pathetic waste of skin and air and her feminist crappola is sickening to real women.
Because I of course, like all feminists, am actually a cyborg.
And then she goes on to say that women who are raped deserve it. Fabulous.
Who needs men to put us down when we have brainwashed women like SL Bradish to do it for them?
Comment by Morgan Bell
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i actually find the comments on that post quite shocking, and i dont shock easily
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sluts deserve to be raped . . . and hunted down and killed like the dirty bitches they are . . . wow
some of those comments actually make me feel sick
ive said pretty much all i have to say over here, and frankly i find some of those people commenting downright scary
Comment by RubySoho
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And I'm not surprised to see that Bradish congratulated them on their "common sense".
There is a line between expressing your opinion and inciting hatred. That post and its comments have crossed that line.
Can you see now, why I refuse to show that woman an inkling of respect? I cannot believe those comments. I am ashamed to be human. I'm just devastated.
Comment by postmoderncritic
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If 'ladies' were respectable because they weren't able to make the choice to do anything other than be a virgin until they got married to a man and have 2.5 kids after that, then I wouldn't want to be a 'lady'. What about the choice to be asexual, have sex with other women, have sex as it suits them, and not have children?
I would love to be 'promiscuous' - to engage in sexual activity as often as possible - however my high standards mean that I do it only about once a year because when it comes down to it, rare is the person who genuinely stimulates my mind and hence my body.
But promiscuity is generally NOT the problem. In my anthropology class last year we analysed what kind of behaviour most puts people at risk of AIDS, and according to the world-renowned Harvard anthropologist/physician Paul Farmer it's the condition of... get ready for this... being poor or female, with poor females at the most risk. No mention of homosexuality, and not much of promiscuity either (although he mentions that sex workers and truck drivers are some of the professions more at risk). One of his case studies is a young Haitian woman from a rural province who worked hard all day to help feed herself and her family. She contracted the disease from the second man she ever slept with. Anyway, he dedicated some of his time to educating economically disadvantaged women in Haiti about how to prevent infection, and found that that the women who he was able to reach used this new knowledge and were able to greatly reduce their chances of infection.
What do you think differentiates the rate of infection in America and Africa (It can be up to 1 in 4 ppl in some countries)? It's not that Africans are more promiscuous than their American counterparts. It's that they lack access to information about how to protect themselves and often access to condoms and other methods of contraception.
As for the claim that AIDS is now or ever was a 'gay disease', that's just homophobic crap. [Read this], from the American Red Cross's site.
Women are considered pieces of meat because they have no mistique left.
Frequent sexual activity doesn't take away from a woman's mystique - and why should a woman have this mystique when a man doesn't? Shouldn't women have the opportunity to make mistakes, IF, for them, having many sexual partners is not satisfactory. By forcing women to act 'modest' and 'demure' you are suppressing a natural desire to experiment with image and identity. A woman SHOULD be able to make all the mistakes that a man can in discovering her sexual identity. Holding back someone is not giving them freedom - it's suppression, and that's what mainstream feminist practice has tried to abolish. If a woman decides to stay a virgin until she gets married, then that is a choice she is free to make in the context of the more open attitudes we have towards what women can and can't do in the west.
whore,
This word is demeaning to women, not just because it paints a woman's ability to be sexual in any way she pleases in a audaciously insulting light, but because there is no male equivalent. Men have historically been so afraid of female sexuality that they have tried to intimidate them into acting as they would like them to. Luckily not every female is as close-minded as you and help misogynists continue to attempt to control womens' sexuality.
screw
You say that as if having sex is a bad, nasty, virile thing. Why do you have so little respect for womens' sexual behaviour? I notice you have not said a single thing to indicate that you are as critical of male sexual behaviour when it steps outside your conservative standards.
Also, no matter what Ruby may have written about her sexual behaviour, it is rude for you to attempt to insult her based on your understanding of her sexuality. Maybe if you tried to understand where she is coming from more then you wouldn't need to lash out at other people.
And your allusion to wishing Alt_ed had never been born is awful - I don't know how you see that such a hurtful attack has any place on Orble. I was quite disturbed to read it.
And if you get AIDS (...) you can die just like a man.
That's the point. We are equal. With freedom comes responsibility, but does that mean that freedom should be withheld? Think about it.
Comment by postmoderncritic
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At uni I learnt about different types of feminism over teh ages - for example, we are supposed to be experiencing 'third wave' or 'postfeminism' feminism atm, where women think that we are adequately liberated, and embrace certain restrictions, such as wearing make-up, or taking all the domestic responsibility, as empowering. This would probably be a good topic for someone to write on.
Ruby - I don't think there can be too many posts celebrating feminism...
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yeah i find any advocation of violence towards women deeply disturbing . . . its a bit like one of those things i wish i didnt see
hi epiphanie,
hey im glad you enjoyed the post!
i like to tip my hat to the old Feminists every once in awhile!
and i agree, there can never be too many articles, i cant wait to see Ruby's take on the topic, she's a great researcher and im a sucker for history and stats!
hi Summer,
thanks for stopping in and checking out my article!
i always enjoy reading about Feminist issues on your blog . . . keep up the good work!
Comment by Mr Nice Guy
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Nothing quite like getting the gloves off and 'having a go'.
Street brawler vs prize fighter . . . I'm transfixed by the salvo's being fired across collective bows.
You've a captive audience here Morgan.
Comment by Carolyn Cordon
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Really, what can you do with people like SL? Coninue fighting the good fight and hope they see the light. Or at least light lots of candles the way you are here Morgan - Goodonya, I've enjoyed this little discussion.
Comment by Jeff Musall
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What SL has shown on this post (and many others) is that she is not worthy of consideration, not worthy of the attempt at discussion. What needs to happen is to marginalize her and those like her to the point where they are mindless voices blowing in the wind, with no real power or influence.
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Hey Jeff, funny you should say that. CLICKHERE for my new post which discusses this. It's called SL Bradish or Sheik Al-Hilali?
But just as a side note, 'Allah' means 'God' in Arabic. It's the same God.
Comment by Carolyn Cordon
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It's good to know that I'm not alone. I sincerely hope firstly, that Obama wins that damned election, and secondly that he lives up to his promise and promises.
I'm worried about our world if something better doesn't happen - things are looking pretty dire.
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Let us start with the basics; you are, I believe, a woman--correct? You also vote, I assume.
You're also a writer, no? A thinking individual with her own opinions, feelings and thoughts--right?
{You must have the cleanest floor in the U.S., what with all the sweeping generalizations you make. Really.}
Let me illustrate to you what the response would have been if you had walked into a newspaper office in 1800 and said you wanted to write an op-ed column about politics:
"Politics? Now why would a woman want to worry her pretty little head about such things? How about a nice little piece about cooking, hmmmmm? We'll publish you for free and you'll get your name in the paper! Won't that be nice?"
Oh yes---the rage would rise up as you thought "Wait a minute you assholes! Why would you assume I know nothing of politics just because I'm a woman??"
Agree or disagree?
Wait for it, Bradish. We're not entering the battlefield yet. These are just the preliminaries, so a simple yes or no will suffice for now.
Comment by Morgan Bell
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good to know im keeping you captive! haha
i presume im the street brawler?
i actually thought the original post was fairly tame, im surprised myself at how polarising a few facts about women and equality could be!
hi Carolyn Cordon,
welcome to my crazy blog!
im in Tasmania now, but spent the bulk of my adult life and high school years in Sydney and Newcastle, so i can totally relate to your surprise at ultra conservative opinions . . . i just dont think we are exposed to them that much here in Australia . . . interacting with Americans on Orble has been a real wake up call to me about how differently the other half live!
thanks for joining in the discussion!
hi Ruby,
thanks for the link, i will check it out!